Rollbacked transfers

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  • #1 2021-03-12 12:03

    nouhau with GA gets the benefit of the doubt, whats new?

    Last edited by mathe at 2021-03-12 12:05
  • #2 2021-03-12 12:05

    It's like in football when there is a VAR decision for Man Utd or Liverpool xD

  • #3 2021-03-12 12:09

    Funny to see a bunch of losers trying to point out an entire comm when the problems is and always has been the rules. This happened before and will happens again in the future because the current rules for this situations are stupid.

    Last edited by RAikkonen at 2021-03-12 12:10
  • #4 2021-03-12 12:10

    @jonnylaris I absolutely agree, but there're so much hypocrisy here too, since some people complain this time but look another side when his community or friend is involved...

    So I also think things could/should change by law/rules, but until that happening complaining some times and ignoring another ones is hypocrite and embarrassing

  • #5 2021-03-12 12:12

    RAikkonen wrote:

    Funny to see a bunch of losers trying to point out an entire comm when the problems is and always has been the rules. This happened before and will happens again in the future because the current rules for this situations are stupid.

    Bunch of losers.... right ok

  • #6 2021-03-12 12:17

    mathe wrote:

    nouhau with GA gets the benefit of the doubt, whats new?


    Admins monitor each other. Don't you think it would be easy to spot and sanctioned within admin team if someone bends the rules?

    Last edited by Raid on at 2021-03-12 12:17
  • #7 2021-03-12 12:28

    Raid on wrote:

    mathe wrote:

    nouhau with GA gets the benefit of the doubt, whats new?


    Admins monitor each other. Don't you think it would be easy to spot and sanctioned within admin team if someone bends the rules?

    Depends on what "rules" we are talking about

  • #8 2021-03-12 12:33

    booban wrote:

    You all still miss some points, which people have already mention in some way. I do not like these transfers no, but for admins to be able to handle this with consistensy, you have to look at the bigger and unfortunatly more boring and strict picture.

    The guys arguing for banking, this isnt even banking as i said earlier.. Also, the players never returned to zoif, which should also end that discussion.

    The guys arguing about cheating: the point of not having fixed bids (f.e. only possible to bid max 5% more than previous bid), is that you can raise the bid MORE than that. Which happened. Yes, it was 300k more than previous bid and the intent of why is obvious. But there's nothing wrong with the final value players sold at. This loop hole is very hard to close, if you set this particular case aside for two seconds.

    For the rules to be able to cover this, they should also cover transfers like this at a much lower price (f.e. a raise from 4k to 7.2k between 50 days users) and we also need a definition of how high a bid is to classify as a unnessesary high raise from the previous bid. Even in situations when the final price is OK.

    You then also need to change the definition of family and friends, if you want this to cover community members covering up for each others. This game was created long before communities in the current form and discord/whatsapp, and TL cheating was easier to set up between "IRL friends". Everything else had to (well.. ) go through in-game mail, which ofc was easier to track and prove back then.

    Back to this and other recent similiar named cases: Shady, yes very much! Cheating or breaking the current rules, no.

    And finally, is this really a priority?? The cases bumbiii showed affects new users much much more than these, if that's your argument. Having been a member of csm since the beginning, big transfers and arguments between communities has ALWAYS been a big part of this game, like it or not. Neither old or new ownership group has cared to fix this and I dont think they will. It will then be up to the admin team to interpret the rules we have and without the ability to collect concrete evidens, they cant do much more than they have. That is - if we/they don't make sure to update the current rules.

    Just look at the eraser-case arcane posted. Everyone thought they were guilty, but none got punished.

    So funny to see all these posts when this makes most sense of em all, and no one is discussing anything here.

    gg

  • #9 2021-03-12 12:43

    I can see atleast 3 rules broken, and no it's not only this transfer that has broken rules.

    So I guess the rules aren't there to be followed?

    My question now is... can I break every other rules or will I actually get punished if I do so?

  • #10 2021-03-12 13:48

    In this case I can have a second account? If there is no sanction against the "best" "old" for obvious faults which jump to the eyes except to those of the admins I do not see why I have to deprive myself?

  • #11 2021-03-12 13:59

    Anonyme wrote:

    In this case I can have a second account?

    Yes, feel free.

  • #12 2021-03-12 15:13

    mathe wrote:

    I can see atleast 3 rules broken, and no it's not only this transfer that has broken rules.

    So I guess the rules aren't there to be followed?

    My question now is... can I break every other rules or will I actually get punished if I do so?


    Report it if u are that sure any rule was broken...

    If u broke "the rules" you said were broken and u did it same way they were broken, you could be chill then...

    But I think, it's better to stop crying and do something else instead... U think rules are wrong? U got any idea it could be improved? Go ahead create a topic about it and/or ask admins... Otherway it just seems like nonsense crying

  • #13 2021-03-12 15:45

    Hey Bart this is Captain Obvious.
    The point of using forums like this is to do exactly what you are telling people to do.
    And the only way of achieving that is through communication.
    Also to be fair, its you crying, not the person you quoted.
    Have a great day man!

  • #14 2021-03-12 15:46

    @zoif

    Please ragesell more often and ask your friends to bid high. Idk if you did that or not, and it’s not my problem anyway. But the situation “you created” has just revived the forum, more than it ever was since 2 eternities ago. So I bow in fron of you kind sir, for making the forum cool, active and worth reading again.

    @everyone else

    Why is it that when something “goes wrong” you make the forum fun, and when all is “normal” you don’t talk here too? We want the game to be “better” but it all starts from the forum. Trust me, I’m a delivery guy. I know what I’m talking about.

    Cheers.

  • #15 2021-03-12 16:17

    No worries Pixel. But dunno where this ragesell comes from. I simply miss clicked wrong players to TL...

  • #16 2021-03-12 16:28

    I hope you wont missclick any other of your players. And i hope nobody of our community bids if that happens.

  • #17 2021-03-12 16:45

    noiah wrote:

    Hey Bart this is Captain Obvious.
    The point of using forums like this is to do exactly what you are telling people to do.
    And the only way of achieving that is through communication.
    Also to be fair, its you crying, not the person you quoted.
    Have a great day man!

    Hi, Mr Complaint!

    If u have the solution for this, just expose it, if not what's the meaning of complaining? You'd better look for solutions, not just complaining about unfair world.

    Rules are wrong? Ok, find the solution and solve the problem instead of boring all of us with a repetitive topic through complaining

    Enjoy your day! +35° here, sunny and great day indeed, thanks!

  • #18 2021-03-12 17:32

    zoif wrote:

    No worries Pixel. But dunno where this ragesell comes from. I simply miss clicked wrong players to TL...

    I donmt know either. Was just saying what I read in the forum still... we are alive.

  • + #19 2021-03-12 22:14 Post deleted by Wrath

  • #20 2021-03-21 14:24

    Basically everybody (except uknow, involved admins and of course raid_on) think this kind of transfer is wrong. So maybe it's time to fix the rules so we can avoid this discussion in the future?

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