Rollbacked transfers

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  • #1 2021-03-26 10:59

    change the name of this topic, "raid on vs the world", nothing to do with rollbacked transfers anymore.. or atleast create a new topic to talk about that "problem" again

  • #2 2021-03-26 11:05

    Everyone with cash that are online after the latest bid can overbid. If you’re not online you can’t bid. So like you’re saying: it’s possible to gain an advantage on the transfer list by letting your friends bid on your behalf if you’re not able to be online yourself - and then resell the player to yourself at a timer where you have both the cash needed and time to bid.

    You reply to my posts all the time but still refuse to answer if you think it’s fair to do transfers with the sole intention of helping a friend, without any intention to benefit your own clan? Let alone give any arguments that justifies this.

  • #3 2021-03-26 11:10

    mrcarlsen wrote:

    If you’re not online you can’t bid.


    if you are not online around deadline, you can still prebidfight a lot when online and put a massive overbid which could be enough to get a player.

    mrcarlsen wrote:

    So I think I've made myself clear why I think banking is wrong. Now, I see a lot of excuses why we can't make a rule against this type of behaviour but I don't see any argument for why it's fair. Because of your lack of willingness to answer my question, I can only assume that you guys can't come up with any good reasons this point.


    arguments why it's fair and not against the rules were presented multiple times. admins seemed to understand them. else there would be a majority deciding otherwise lately. maybe time to apply a fair sportmanship attude and start to accept tough decisions of a ref and move on?

  • #4 2021-03-26 11:16

    Finally, you’re saying it yourself: instead of asking your friends to bank the player you can do as any other manager who don’t have that chance: put an early bid and hope it’s enough.

    Please let me know where these arguments is posted that explain how doing transfers with the sole intention of helping a friend, without any intention to benefit your own clan. I can’t find them, and despite you keep replying you never answer it yourself either.

  • #5 2021-03-26 11:55

    mrcarlsen wrote:

    Finally, you’re saying it yourself: instead of asking your friends to bank the player you can do as any other manager who don’t have that chance: put an early bid and hope it’s enough.


    a player being 2 times in a row on TL within short time means increased chances for everyone to get this player.

    Last edited by Raid on at 2021-03-26 11:55
  • #6 2021-03-26 11:56

    Why do you refuse to answer my question? I don’t get it.

  • #7 2021-03-26 12:14

    mrcarlsen wrote:

    Why do you refuse to answer my question? I don’t get it.


    the supreme court of csm already decided behind closed doors. so I'm just contributing possible points step by step. maybe they said yes to everything and can back it up with rules. maybe they think like you but cannot back it up with rules or can't do much due to lack of lazy win win ideas. hard to say what's hidden behind curtains.
    as manager with transfer benefit intends I just stick to the official actions + statements of admins to have some legal certainty. this allows me to keep my acc for a very long time.

  • #8 2021-03-26 12:26

    You guys should start a pen friendship, seems like you really enjoy answering each other in repetitive sentences.

  • #9 2021-03-26 12:29

    Haha agree. I give up. I guess we’ll never know what arguments that legitimizes doing transfers with the sole intent to help a friend.

  • #10 2021-03-26 17:07

    well, thats how the rules are made - they dont need to make sense, they are there and as long as the majority dont want a change, it wont happen.

    a good example is the tryout tax. if you get lucky on your tryout, you can get max 100k. if u decide to rebuy this player (for whatever reason) after a time, you are not allowed to sell again after 51 days, but u need to send a ticket to get the "old tax", because else it is tax avoiding (?!) while you, meanwhile, are allowed to pick on every player you want. this makes absolutely no sense, because why on earth should you be allowed to buy every player you want, and even sell for max profit after 51 days, just not a former one? everyone else can stop you from buying, as it is open market. YET it is forbidden. a complete nonsense rule.

    makes no sense, but still the exist. and banking is the same. does it make sense to allow it? no. is it allowed? yes.

    Last edited by vali at 2021-03-26 18:40
  • #11 2021-03-26 18:26

    mrcarlsen wrote:

    Haha agree. I give up. I guess we’ll never know what arguments that legitimizes doing transfers with the sole intent to help a friend.

    The real answer is in your own statement, if you think about it.

    You do not actually know the intent. It's speculation.

    It's a rather unenforceable rule, essentially depending on individual admins' personal opinion about intent during a particular case.

    I can reply in more detail maybe tomorrow on on Monday.

  • #12 2021-04-05 00:20

    It's all pure "speculation" in this game.
    No cheating whatsoever... if there is, only a very small number of people does it.

    MrCarlsen, don't spend your time arguing with brainless people who spend theirs licking admins ba*l sac*.

  • #13 2021-04-05 00:48

    Phenom wrote:

    It's all pure "speculation" in this game.
    No cheating whatsoever... if there is, only a very small number of people does it.


    to solve this speculation issue there is one simple thing you could do on your own:
    if you see someone breaking the rules, please report to admins.
    0 fines/warnings after a report? please follow §1.4 and treat the guy you suspected like a innocent legit gameplay manager then.
    the admin team aka "your friend and helper" will thank you a lot.

    Last edited by Raid on at 2021-04-05 00:50
  • #14 2021-04-07 09:31

    So yeaah. Really nice to have good friends in CSM. If this doesn't get rolled back. I don't know anymore. I bet you that in 1-3 seasons, he will be bought back for half the price.

    Funny thing is that its not the first time this has happened to this user. But I guess nothing will be done

  • #15 2021-04-07 09:32

    DaddyeN wrote:

    So yeaah. Really nice to have good friends in CSM. If this doesn't get rolled back. I don't know anymore. I bet you that in 1-3 seasons, he will be bought back for half the price.

    Funny thing is that its not the first time this has happened to this user. But I guess nothing will be done

    Solid work Josse, GTFO!

  • #16 2021-04-07 09:38

    No no, I think this is legit. Below 700k, no community mates

    Players like this ain't even worth considering for Yaz, better raise 80k instant from SB to 100% get the player.

  • #17 2021-04-07 09:58

    DaddyeN wrote:

    So yeaah. Really nice to have good friends in CSM. If this doesn't get rolled back. I don't know anymore. I bet you that in 1-3 seasons, he will be bought back for half the price.

    Funny thing is that its not the first time this has happened to this user. But I guess nothing will be done

    Srsly what should I do man? If I put out for 420k and someone bid 500k.
    "Solid work josse" Good fucking job

  • #18 2021-04-07 10:30

    Don't act like your hands aren't dirty or should we go look thru your millions of past shady TL deals.

  • #19 2021-04-07 10:45

    josse22 wrote:

    DaddyeN wrote:

    So yeaah. Really nice to have good friends in CSM. If this doesn't get rolled back. I don't know anymore. I bet you that in 1-3 seasons, he will be bought back for half the price.

    Funny thing is that its not the first time this has happened to this user. But I guess nothing will be done

    Srsly what should I do man? If I put out for 420k and someone bid 500k.
    "Solid work josse" Good fucking job

    Honestly, I have nothing against you mate, I dont know you like that.
    Its just looking at the transfers you have done, with the managers you have done these transfers with. Makes me kinda wonder .

  • #20 2021-04-07 13:18

    It's not like you already have a long long list of transfers with swedish users that are almost vanished from the game. Just buy looking at the leader Blurr, he has been transferred two times to swedish users that doesn't play the game anymore, giving you a lot of money. Guess it's how the game works

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