Rollbacked transfers

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  • #1 2014-08-06 21:08

    Let me try to get this right: Discussion is the wrong word..maybe we are voting?

  • #2 2014-08-06 21:09

    please check the last 5 transfers of this guy

  • #3 2014-08-06 21:11

    Dr.Pro wrote:

    Let me try to get this right: Discussion is the wrong word..maybe we are voting?

    I know how Destiny will wote

  • #4 2014-08-06 21:52

    MeTe wrote:

    please check the last 5 transfers of this guy

    that might have been deals worth discussion/voting. i saw 4 of those 5 and all prices were more or less normal. none of them was going for 100,150k more then the price should have been - but still, its "stupid" to pay those amounts in div6, so looking at the deals and talking about them, worth it.

    in fact the buyer you linked here is active (logins daily?) but lacks pcws. i never liked the pcw system inside csm (pcws for basic stuff like activity) and he is one of those that suffer from it (plays the game/wants to play but cba to organise pcws). a pcw system like the one inside csm forces ppl to do certain things. should not happen. pcws should give advantage (like more xp, more money, more train), so if you care for them, you get a small benefit, but should not change the basic things that drastically (lacking pcws can decide a season for yourself or for opponents and often creates unfair situations for all involved sides).

    Last edited by vali at 2014-08-06 22:19
  • #5 2014-08-07 11:12

    vali wrote:

    haha,

    well snif, the price would never have ended higher then sb normally.

    we are talking about a guy with very low xp, VERY low sp and soon 27. even with perfect train and sb, this guy would not have reached 500k. biggy - for example - bought a nearly identical (but top trained and top xp'd) 26yo for 415k. but even if the price was ok, there is still the connection between the two guys, so its a rollback even more. there is no doubt on this, and there is no explaination from admin side that can justify such a deal (basically just as the destiny deal back a few days). either its the activity or its the rules, but one of the two things has to change (or even both)

    Sure, it's on the high end. Although I believe managers care less about exp again after jaco's pos2 kicked ass with just lvl3 exp

    What I tried to say is if this player was sold for 350k there would have been a lot less fuzz about this transfer. Imo the main issue is not the actual bid, but the connection between both managers. CSM used to be quite keen on this kind of cheating ('friendly' bid). What the hack is going on in the admin team if transfers like this get approved, while the cheating is so damn obvious?

    Last edited by snif at 2014-08-07 11:17
  • #6 2014-08-07 13:09

    maybe there's some admin involved in the transaction. lol

  • #7 2014-08-07 17:54

    BUT 500K FROM A MANGER THAT HAS 5 TRYOUTS??????????????????????????? Maybe he was worth 500k but THIS WAS A TROLL BID

  • #8 2014-08-07 23:05

    The fact that their aint clear lines on transfer market, will stuff like this happen.

    Because every admin have their own opinion on when its legit, and when it aint.

    Their have been great examples on how to prevent, ect. the 25% max bid, or valis with extended time.

    But for me it sounds like that this isnt a big issue, but something that needs to be discussed, while its good to have a solid plan on what to do, their is a major problem here that needs attention.

    Edit by Dr.Pro: Don't incite someone to do illigal stuff.

    Last edited by Dr.Pro at 2014-08-07 23:19
  • #9 2014-08-08 00:44

    i still think the overall politics inside csm (regarding transfer situations) are wrong.

    right now its "we try to be as loose as possible" with the result, the number of rollbacked players is very small.

    in my eyes, there is NO harm done if a bid gets rollbacked. the seller gets back the XXX csm he paid to put on tl and thats about it. in other words, better rollback once to often to prevent shit happening, with noone beeing hurt, then acting to loose.

    i am not talkin about overpriced players that came from a (normal, legit) bidwar here, but about things like

    - overpriced sbs
    - sick overbids
    - connection between buyers

    in other words, JUST ROLLBACK all kind of those players, as noone is punished, it doesnt need evidence or anything either. if the price was legit, the seller will get him again. if the price wasnt legit, all fine and correct anyway.

    Last edited by vali at 2014-08-08 00:46
  • #10 2014-08-09 13:54

    I wonder how long the admin "vote" will take ?? silence doesn't make people forget.

  • #11 2014-08-09 14:15

    Further, it must be annoying and frustrating for the seller to wait for the inevitable rollback while similar players are getting sold for crazy prices.

    The seller's chances for selling the player for the SB becomes ever more slimmer.

  • #12 2014-08-11 08:15

    So, a week has gone by since this obvious rollback didn't get rollbacked.

    When is the admins' vote over and when will we see the transfer rollbacked?

  • #13 2014-08-11 08:53

    I think you should slowly start dealing with the fact that there won't be a rollback at all and those who take the decisions do not really care about what people think or write in this topic.

  • #14 2014-08-11 09:32

    Sad...

  • #15 2014-08-11 09:42

    yup sucks

    If the admin team can´t decide on new GA´s to prevent this kind of stuff just create a new admin post that ONLY deals with reported transfers. I think 1 or 2 active TL-Admins should be enough to deal with all reported transfers. On the other hand GA have more time for "important" stuff

  • #16 2014-08-11 14:24

    The GA's need to get their heads out of their asses and get to work.

  • #17 2014-08-11 15:15

    J0nas wrote:

    The GA's need to get their heads out of their asses and get to work.

  • #18 2014-08-11 16:25

    Its a wish thinking Jonas and Hardcore.

    They don't have to be responsible for their actions.

    They do however have time to edit the fact that now is the best time to cheat with transfers.

  • #19 2014-08-11 22:07

    jacopom wrote:

    I think you should slowly start dealing with the fact that there won't be a rollback at all and those who take the decisions do not really care about what people think or write in this topic.


    yeah. it's time to accept the destiny.

  • #20 2014-08-11 22:13

    Hahaha

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