Rollbacked transfers

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  • #1 2014-10-09 03:48

    How did you missed this one? :p
    http://www.cs-manager.com/csm/?p=office_transfer&s=player&n=10289428

    We will handle it soon.

    @jaysemilia, i got your ticket. Let me just check with the other GA+, won't take long.

    Last edited by D-F-D at 2014-10-09 03:52
  • #2 2014-10-09 03:54

    D-F-D wrote:

    How did you missed this one? :p
    http://www.cs-manager.com/csm/?p=office_transfer&s=player&n=10289428

    We will handle it soon.

    @jaysemilia, i got your ticket. Let me just check with the other GA+, won't take long.

    I did not miss that but the price is not huge (yet)

  • #3 2014-10-09 03:56

    jaysemilia wrote:

    So my player M.Sokolov (shared) has been rollbacked with the following reasoning:
    "Transfer id: 2495653 has been rollbacked

    Playernick: M. Sokolov (From empiяe ♔ spi∂єяs)
    Bid: 40000 csm (From Foolek)

    The transfer has been rolled back because the bidder is new to the game, and the bid would have put him/her in serious financial trouble, if the transfer had been completed. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, if you have any questions or comments do not hesitate to contact me."

    The bids were like 7,5k -> 8k -> 15k -> 40k.
    The buyer: "Member since: [...] (95 days)"

    The reasoning is beyond my comprehension. Financial trouble is a reason for a rollback? Serious?
    New to the game: 95 days which mean (theoretically) 70 days of mentor support.

    Comparing this transfer for example to perviously discussed transfers the amount of "overprice" is even alot smaller.
    I invested min. 3 weeks of lc, equally to 15k csm.
    The player is 24yo, 600+sp, maxed top5 even though they are not exactly godlike

    Compared to other transfers i really cant understand the rollback.
    If iam completly mistaken pls explain.

    I reported that, regardless of age sp and what you have invested this guy is never worth 40k... I mean be realistic the player is bad.

  • #4 2014-10-09 07:57

    Hi,

    I didn't say anything before, but now it's too much... I don't know this person that builds on my players and I would like admins take the necessary steps in order to be banned if it rots TL! I'll do an email to admins as soon as possible so that they act quickly because I'm sick and tired of making me cancel my transfer as I repeat I don't know this person

    Regards,
    rqptor

  • #5 2014-10-09 09:26

    rqptor wrote:

    Hi,

    I didn't say anything before, but now it's too much... I don't know this person that builds on my players and I would like admins take the necessary steps in order to be banned if it rots TL! I'll do an email to admins as soon as possible so that they act quickly because I'm sick and tired of making me cancel my transfer as I repeat I don't know this person

    Regards,
    rqptor

    Caught out and don't want to be punished so lets pretend we don't know him? Smart idea....

  • #6 2014-10-09 10:01

    rqptor it´s funny how the light just came to you isn't it im having a good laugh here thank you so much.

  • #7 2014-10-09 13:33

    And what you want him to do?
    Let's say a guy consistently bought my players and i don't know him, why would it be my problem? If the admins don't do anything about this guy i couldn't care less about who buys my players...
    Do you have a proof rqptor even know this guy? If they know each other AND you have a proof, then yeah you are very right rqptor should be punished but if you don't you can't punish him. The only guy who's cheating at the moment is bouley. Again, like you i don't know if they are friend or not, so right now without any further informations you can't accuse rqptor like you do right now... He is innocent until the admins find a proof he cheated and you should respect that.

  • #8 2014-10-09 13:55

    I think there is an ongoing investigation about Bouley, now stop to talk about this case.
    As said Rainette, if rqptor or an other french is guilty is this case, he will be punish.
    Wait and see..

  • #9 2014-10-09 14:12

    It's not so easy to find all the elements to punish the users in such cases.
    But at least, the community gets the public rejection

    And if this raptor is the same one that was Drizzit's 'brother' (possibly multi), i'm not surprise at all about the cheating nor that he's on a community where cheating rules.
    The Anti-tactics 'brothers' that later joined together Jinxed to make the biggest data base of demos

    Last edited by AtumComMel at 2014-10-09 14:32
  • #10 2014-10-09 15:17

    Rainette wrote:

    And what you want him to do?
    Let's say a guy consistently bought my players and i don't know him, why would it be my problem? If the admins don't do anything about this guy i couldn't care less about who buys my players...
    Do you have a proof rqptor even know this guy? If they know each other AND you have a proof, then yeah you are very right rqptor should be punished but if you don't you can't punish him. The only guy who's cheating at the moment is bouley. Again, like you i don't know if they are friend or not, so right now without any further informations you can't accuse rqptor like you do right now... He is innocent until the admins find a proof he cheated and you should respect that.

    So Rain, you do not find it suspicious that this guy only targets players from this manager or manager(s) from the same community, even buying a player from 1 of the manager(s) many season's ago,

    They are of the same country, this guy is inactive and rqptor is trying to sell oldies (who are not worth much) for 100k sb's and this guy bids? well if that is not obvious to you then you're obviously as stupid as them for trying to get away with it.

  • #11 2014-10-09 15:39

    The difference between you and me is that i also find it very suspicious but the difference to me is that he is not guilty yet in my eyes and i find it disrespectful to trash him on forum as of now.

  • #12 2014-10-10 07:55

    Hi,

    The presumption of innocence is a concept that is beyond you and you do not know obviously !! Personally, I have nothing to reproach myself since I'm in the game either from season 15...

    DFD was a teammate with me in a community and he knows that there ever had this kind of scam on the transfer list or tactics !!

    Admins must do a few things against Bouley one, and that's all. What they are waiting ??

    Best regards,
    rqptor

  • #13 2014-10-10 10:42

    OK rqptor, There may not be proof that you are cheating and you may not be, but can you see how it looks?

    and regardless of an Admin being your friend or personally vouching for you, you could still cheat, and you may think because of the above reason you can get away with it.

    It just does not make sense why this guy would purposely bid on your players only, even once rolled back? I mean the guy is clearly inactive so why would he waste his time to do so unless otherwise instructed to do so, I mean he could just be trying to get you into trouble for no reason because he finds it fun? Who knows.

  • #14 2014-10-10 10:58

    Obvious cheating. Ban.

  • #15 2014-10-10 11:05

    ans wrote:


    I reported that, regardless of age sp and what you have invested this guy is never worth 40k... I mean be realistic the player is bad.

    The problem I see comes from the definition of "overpriced". This notion is really subjective and depend on each person.

    I don't spend all my time on the TL so I don't know what is the more realistic price for a play and it can happen that I make an overpriced bid for a player. But a guy who spend more time on TL, won't make this bid because he knows it's overpriced.

    So because you have a lot a time to waste on TL, when someone make a huge bid that seems unrealistic for you, you think it's a friendly bid ? It's a bit simple-minded no ?

    I can give you many reasons that can explain an important bid.

  • #16 2014-10-10 13:02

    Hum... ans, why are you so aggressive ?
    I remember you sent a mail about my player AYOROS', I bought him the 2014-06-12 for 125000. You were mad at me cause you could not buy the player... Play cool man, it's a game, why is it so important to you ?

    I'm here cause your words are mean : "ban them all - obviously cheating - Well Mr Innocent, you're whole community seems to sell players overpriced to this guy, it's very suspicious don't you think? - you and I both know you're community is cheating"
    Mr Innocent as you say, me included, and some other guys of my community are just here to having fun (a game, what else) without any goal... So just thinking they, sorry we, are cheating is just ridiculous.

    The problem is that people are so jealous about anything (result, player, transfer, finance, trophy), they need to think smarter people must obviously cheating... Maybe it's the only way for some guys to succeed, not my way, and I'm sure none of my community is cheating. But well, maybe someone is mad at us.

    By the way, AtumComMel and all angry people, you are not the first, Drizzit is my brother, he is almost 34yo, and we have already sent, a long time ago, the scan of our identity cards... And, you won't believe it, but, I won everything and the laptop without specific anti-tacs.

    I rarely talk in public place, I don't like it, but this time I had to do it, my apologizes to the good guys.

    Last edited by Blo0 at 2014-10-10 13:03
  • #17 2014-10-10 13:54

    I'm afraid I didn't mention your name on my post BloO.
    I was just saying that this raptor, if he's the same as the raptor that had a brother playing this game back in the days, which I thought was called Drizzit, but maybe it was another user (can't really recall, I remember them from season 34).Those 2 were known to be the anti-tacts brothers. And later joined forces with other users that liked to check demos and steal tactics.
    Of course making anti tacts is not cheating, but just shows that fairplay was never their(his) strong point.

    This was raptor brother, which i cant recall the username

    Last edited by AtumComMel at 2014-10-10 13:59
  • #18 2014-10-10 13:55

    Blo0 wrote:

    Hum... ans, why are you so aggressive ?
    I remember you sent a mail about my player AYOROS', I bought him the 2014-06-12 for 125000. You were mad at me cause you could not buy the player... Play cool man, it's a game, why is it so important to you ?

    I'm here cause your words are mean : "ban them all - obviously cheating - Well Mr Innocent, you're whole community seems to sell players overpriced to this guy, it's very suspicious don't you think? - you and I both know you're community is cheating"
    Mr Innocent as you say, me included, and some other guys of my community are just here to having fun (a game, what else) without any goal... So just thinking they, sorry we, are cheating is just ridiculous.

    The problem is that people are so jealous about anything (result, player, transfer, finance, trophy), they need to think smarter people must obviously cheating... Maybe it's the only way for some guys to succeed, not my way, and I'm sure none of my community is cheating. But well, maybe someone is mad at us.

    By the way, AtumComMel and all angry people, you are not the first, Drizzit is my brother, he is almost 34yo, and we have already sent, a long time ago, the scan of our identity cards... And, you won't believe it, but, I won everything and the laptop without specific anti-tacs.

    I rarely talk in public place, I don't like it, but this time I had to do it, my apologizes to the good guys.

    I am not being aggressive at all, and I certainly ain't jealous.
    My main point was it does not look legitimate that bouley is bidding on players of your community mate, especially when your community member listed them for a very high price and bouley instantly bidded the start bids, and even when rolled back he bids again...

    I mean to anybody this would be suspicious, I mean nobody will ever know if that was arranged or not, the admins banned him so he won't be doing it again.

    Last edited by ans at 2014-10-10 13:56
  • #19 2014-10-10 14:17

    I think AtumComMel actually meant Trickman, not Drizzit.

  • #20 2014-10-10 14:19

    AtumComMel wrote:

    I'm afraid I didn't mention your name on my post BloO.
    I was just saying that this raptor, if he's the same as the raptor that had a brother playing this game back in the days, which I thought was called Drizzit, but maybe it was another user (can't really recall, I remember them from season 34).Those 2 were known to be the anti-tacts brothers. And later joined forces with other users that liked to check demos and steal tactics.
    Of course making anti tacts is not cheating, but just shows that fairplay was never their(his) strong point.

    This was raptor brother, which i cant recall the username

    Ahah ! You are thinking to ~raptor~ and trickman. This rqptor is not the same (they played at the same time). I made the confusion long days ago.

    Last edited by Ayoros at 2014-10-10 14:20
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